Broken Skittle :(

Shocker187 · 11-14-2008, 10:01 PM

why it sucks to be me...............

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...ney_199136.htm

Cheaptalon · 11-14-2008, 10:30 PM

Cause you chose a shitty platform to make real power? Haha

evoixmivec · 11-14-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocker187

why it sucks to be me...............

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...ney_199136.htm

i saw ur vid like 15 min ago

lscfn10 · 11-14-2008, 11:36 PM

wtf broke this time?

ek_driver · 11-15-2008, 12:50 AM

well i guess you just have a bad one, mine is great never had a problem with it

Mr. Ed · 11-15-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ek_driver

well i guess you just have a bad one, mine is great never had a problem with it

when you get up to the power level that dennis is at, things start breaking fast. which is why i'm staying <400 whp and stock engine. haha. fiddy on pump ftw!

charger758 · 11-15-2008, 10:11 AM

I enjoy the last song, it fits well. Good luck.

dmarino · 11-15-2008, 10:23 AM

I made 501 on a stock lower end (Dynojet). Just tune carefully and that motor can really perform.

shadow300zchik · 11-15-2008, 10:55 AM

I'll give you $500 for it and end your misery.

halik · 11-15-2008, 11:18 AM

so what's the problem? Bad engine assembly or bad nitrous tOOn go bOOM?

boosted90awd · 11-15-2008, 11:28 AM

Im sorry but on the third engine to make that hp is kind of rediculous. I know the car moves out, but its an 11 sec car on spray thats gone through 2 power plants already? Best of luck come spring, I would hope that a built bottom end can handle the power to make a full season for you.

MDavey · 11-15-2008, 12:08 PM

What happened now dennis!

Shocker187 · 11-15-2008, 12:12 PM

My car runs, but it's experiencing problems. I'm journeying down a road less traveled. You have to be a pioneer, visionary & not afraid to fail, in order to succeed.

My JE pistons say there 8-1, but after my experience. I can comfortably tell you that there higher then that. - the mumbo jumbo, I have uncontrollable knock under any load. I'm sure it stems from the fact that there higher compression ratio is throwing off my timing\knock tables.

I was breakin the car in, and experienced a knock issue that damaged something in the engine. No knock while idling, no smoke, oil pressure is good, and no metal in the oil. I can rev the engine in neutral, can't hearing nothing. Under load at 2500-3500 there's a noticeable knock, that my guess is a wrist pin. Either way, it will have to come out again.

I'm not really upset about it, as the car hasn't ran all summer. Even if the car was done, I couldn't mess with it. It will give me the time, patients to regroup and formula a new attack plan.

I set out on a mission when 1st took the car apart. The only failure in life is death. I promise when the car is done, it will hand out smiles. My goal is 500-600whp, we'll see what it runs. It's going to be a nasty bitch when it's done. I'm a 99% street racer, so it should run a 10 from a 30-40 roll.

Thanks ED for the cheap flexplate!!!

That now resides in my tranny now!!! I guess thats payback for when Rob & You couldn't get your stock turbo off & I had to do work!!!

Mr. Ed · 11-15-2008, 01:52 PM

hahaha. its all good. Milan next seaon, it's on! I just need to learn how to drive real quick....

kliped · 11-15-2008, 03:21 PM

wow i am sorry to hear that, my stock bottom end with 70k on it, 100shot and 25psi through the stock turbo still runs great and has perfect compression of 155psi across all 4 cylinders, after 10 bottles, all bottles were ran at 1300psi. and my car put down 460+whp

dmarino · 11-15-2008, 10:37 PM

The dome of the stock piston requires/allows crazy timing. Get that timing pulled back asap. What are you using to tune?

Power is not about more timing, its about the right timing.

ShadowRuleZ · 11-15-2008, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shocker187

My JE pistons say there 8-1, but after my experience. I can comfortably tell you that there higher then that. - the mumbo jumbo, I have uncontrollable knock under any load. I'm sure it stems from the fact that there higher compression ratio is throwing off my timing\knock tables.

It's 8:1 with a certain sized combustion chamber. This is why you double check everything - cc the heads to figure out how large the combustion chamber actually is to see if it's actually 8:1 or not. Even the head gasket you use and whether or not you had the head/block decked will make a difference.

Here's a quick calculator to do the math:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

v8killaz · 11-15-2008, 11:09 PM

shouda bought a honda

focusownerskid · 11-16-2008, 12:36 AM

That sounds like a tuning issue moreso than hardware.

You should be able to run 11:1 comp and under simple load it won't matter. (w/ correct tuning)

I'd dive into the tuning a bit more, or after you investigate the wrist pins, post back. I'd be curious.

- Drew

Tiger Wu · 11-16-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kliped

wow i am sorry to hear that, my stock bottom end with 70k on it, 100shot and 25psi through the stock turbo still runs great and has perfect compression of 155psi across all 4 cylinders, after 10 bottles, all bottles were ran at 1300psi. and my car put down 460+whp

Can you post the dyno chart? I'd like to see that.

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boosted90awd Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Avoiding rocks and potholes. Rep Power: 5 Feedback: (0)	Im sorry but on the third engine to make that hp is kind of rediculous. I know the car moves out, but its an 11 sec car on spray thats gone through 2 power plants already? Best of luck come spring, I would hope that a built bottom end can handle the power to make a full season for you. __________________ 90 Tsi Awd 69k original miles PTE 50 trim, Dsmlink 350awhp and 310awtq on the BR mustang dyno 08/08 12.12@117

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11-15-2008, 12:12 PM	#13
Shocker187 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: CardBoard Box Rep Power: 4 Feedback: (2)	My car runs, but it's experiencing problems. I'm journeying down a road less traveled. You have to be a pioneer, visionary & not afraid to fail, in order to succeed. My JE pistons say there 8-1, but after my experience. I can comfortably tell you that there higher then that. - the mumbo jumbo, I have uncontrollable knock under any load. I'm sure it stems from the fact that there higher compression ratio is throwing off my timing\knock tables. I was breakin the car in, and experienced a knock issue that damaged something in the engine. No knock while idling, no smoke, oil pressure is good, and no metal in the oil. I can rev the engine in neutral, can't hearing nothing. Under load at 2500-3500 there's a noticeable knock, that my guess is a wrist pin. Either way, it will have to come out again. I'm not really upset about it, as the car hasn't ran all summer. Even if the car was done, I couldn't mess with it. It will give me the time, patients to regroup and formula a new attack plan. I set out on a mission when 1st took the car apart. The only failure in life is death. I promise when the car is done, it will hand out smiles. My goal is 500-600whp, we'll see what it runs. It's going to be a nasty bitch when it's done. I'm a 99% street racer, so it should run a 10 from a 30-40 roll. Thanks ED for the cheap flexplate!!! That now resides in my tranny now!!! I guess thats payback for when Rob & You couldn't get your stock turbo off & I had to do work!!! __________________ Chrome Scooter with CDI, UNI, Hot Coil, NGK, Kelver belt, DR pulley weights, Race Clutch & Bell, Exhaust & 1500rpm Stall Spring!!! Best to date 71mph!!!! in 3 1/2 city blocks!!!

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kliped Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: berkley, MI/ Lima, OH Rep Power: 7 Feedback: (1)	wow i am sorry to hear that, my stock bottom end with 70k on it, 100shot and 25psi through the stock turbo still runs great and has perfect compression of 155psi across all 4 cylinders, after 10 bottles, all bottles were ran at 1300psi. and my car put down 460+whp __________________ 07 r1 04 srt4 95 f150 4x4 95 Eagle Talon awd 99 yamaha banshee (work in progress)

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dmarino Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Library Rep Power: 6 Feedback: (0)	The dome of the stock piston requires/allows crazy timing. Get that timing pulled back asap. What are you using to tune? Power is not about more timing, its about the right timing. __________________ 06' Sti

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focusownerskid Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Monroe, MI Rep Power: 0 Feedback: (1)	That sounds like a tuning issue moreso than hardware. You should be able to run 11:1 comp and under simple load it won't matter. (w/ correct tuning) I'd dive into the tuning a bit more, or after you investigate the wrist pins, post back. I'd be curious. - Drew __________________ 2003 2.3 LG ZX3. www.focaljet.com