Road Bike Thread

[91AWDDSM]

If you're 5'11, chances are you'd want a 58. I'm 5'9-5'10 and ride a 58, albeit a tad to big for me.

Depends on how your body is built and the manufacturer.
I'm 6'-0" but my 58 is a little too big for me - a 56 trek fits good, but a 56 specialized is too small.

One of these days, I'm going to pull the trigger on a 57 TT frame...

[dead97gsx]

I think it has less to do with the manufacturer and more to do with the system of measurement; some measure frame size center to center, some center to top.

[dead97gsx]

If you're 5'11, chances are you'd want a 58. I'm 5'9-5'10 and ride a 58, albeit a tad to big for me.

I want to buy a newer bike... just not any time soon.

You must be a long legged 5'9".....

A 58cm will put the steering axis further forward due to it's longer top tube. All things being equal, there will be less of your weight on the front wheel, reducing the effect of caster and making the bike slightly less stable.
If I were to put you on the next size smaller bike with a longer stem, you would find that the bike "tracked" better.


Most people in bike shops are friendly but completely clueless when it comes to fit.

The best place in the Mid-West for fit is Kinetic Systems in Clarkston. Jeff Noftz has been doing that better than anyone since 1980

[Jerefish]

Thanks, I'll have to check it out. I bought a 54cm for $45 and sold it for $125 without cables or wheels so that was nice, but too small for me. I guess I'll see what I need...lol

[dead97gsx]

Here's a pretty good example of weight distribution and the designers ability to manipulate it.

Excuse the garish paint and notice the 650 front wheel, short top tube/long stem and long (for a road race bike) chainstays.

This bike travels in a straighter line.

[BobaFettm]

Rides nice! First day so still working on stuff to get it dialed in right.

[dead97gsx]

I don't see any discussion on Floyd Landis... ABC has a 90 minute interview, much of which aired on Nightline on Friday night.

Betsy Andreu had a lot of camera time too.

Feds are involved and the shit is going to fly.

[BobaFettm]

the Tour without EPO sucks... no one wants that lol

I find it hard to believe that Contador or Schleck is doping this year. I still don't see how Lance and them get away with doping when the are screened 300+ days of the year and sometimes twice during stages.

but either way I still stand by the best races are with dope involved. Excluding this year which was just an amazing year to watch the Giro and TdF

[dead97gsx]

the Tour without EPO sucks... no one wants that lol

I find it hard to believe that Contador or Schleck is doping this year. I still don't see how Lance and them get away with doping when the are screened 300+ days of the year and sometimes twice during stages.

but either way I still stand by the best races are with dope involved. Excluding this year which was just an amazing year to watch the Giro and TdF

Landis stated on camera that everyone who made the podium in the tours where Lance won were doping.

Betsy Andreu commented about the very large sums of cash that Lance was gifting to the U.C.I. and likened it to Barry Bonds slipping cash to Bud Selig.

I've never met Betsy but Frankie and his family are part of the bed rock of Detroit cycling and are highly regarded. They have nothing to gain but everything to lose. Landis has lied and admits to lying but to my knowledge, Frankie Andreu is unimpeachable.

(I used to watch Frankie race, he lapped a Greektown cat.1/2 criterium as a junior.)

[brok3n]

You must be a long legged 5'9".....

A 58cm will put the steering axis further forward due to it's longer top tube. All things being equal, there will be less of your weight on the front wheel, reducing the effect of caster and making the bike slightly less stable.
If I were to put you on the next size smaller bike with a longer stem, you would find that the bike "tracked" better.


Most people in bike shops are friendly but completely clueless when it comes to fit.

The best place in the Mid-West for fit is Kinetic Systems in Clarkston. Jeff Noftz has been doing that better than anyone since 1980

On the contrary... but it's what I have. I know I'm too small for the bike, but I don't have the funds to buy something new.

[mattspecv]

<--- newbie to road bikes picked up an older Cannondale and i love it, sure its nothing compared to what Boba posted lol but its mine and i got it cheap lol

[screaminDOHC]

Susan G Komen Ride for the cure...58 miles...fun times..

[screaminDOHC]

I love this video....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvwtOQYQ-E&feature=related[/youtube]

Greg Lemond TT Stage...avg 34mph.

[brok3n]

Thats... not slow.

[screaminDOHC]

Here's a pretty good example of weight distribution and the designers ability to manipulate it.

Excuse the garish paint and notice the 650 front wheel, short top tube/long stem and long (for a road race bike) chainstays.

This bike travels in a straighter line.

Long stem...I think that's a pretty attractive looking ride. Who was the framebuilder?
Our team (the Racing Greyhounds) ride quite a few Quiring frames made by Scott Quiring out of Charlotte. His Ti frames are a thing of beauty....

[screaminDOHC]

For those of you who have had the pleasure of meeting/riding with him....Saw it on LMB facebook fan page...

League of Michigan Bicyclists : We are extremely sad to report that Michigan lost a cycling legend yesterday. Kevin Degen was an amazing ambassador for bicycling and a true inspiration to everyone he met!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUExPsgs60[/youtube]

[dead97gsx]

Long stem...I think that's a pretty attractive looking ride. Who was the framebuilder?
Our team (the Racing Greyhounds) ride quite a few Quiring frames made by Scott Quiring out of Charlotte. His Ti frames are a thing of beauty....

Pino Morroni built that bike not too long before he died. Merckx rode his stuff, so did LeMond.... I just ate spagetti salad and built bikes in his garage workshop.



Pino's page : http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA...oroni_main.htm

[screaminDOHC]

Pino Morroni built that bike not too long before he died. Merckx rode his stuff, so did LeMond.... I just ate spagetti salad and built bikes in his garage workshop.



Pino's page : http://www.classicrendezvous.com/USA...oroni_main.htm

Haha..that would have been a great apprenticeship...

Are you still building frames/riding?

Man..I need to figure out what's going on with my front derailleur...stupid thing....

[dead97gsx]

Haha..that would have been a great apprenticeship...

Are you still building frames/riding?

Man..I need to figure out what's going on with my front derailleur...stupid thing....

Pino was something. here's just a short list:

*at 16 he was supporting his family as a lathe hand, machining silver valve bodies. he was the equivalent to a journeyman in the U.S. at that age. (Fascist trade schools).

*Pino played soccer professionally before being drafted.

*Between soccer gigs, Pino met the DeLaurentis family and appeared in five musical comedies produced for the Italian market.

*Drafted into WWII and trained as an elite paratrooper. Pino was wounded by British artillery in the battle oe El Alemein.

*Spent five years as a guest of the British army in a p.o.w. camp.

*Immigrated to Ontario and then to Michigan in the mid 1950's and began work at the Dodge main plant at a "master gauge builder".

*Quit Dodge to start his own machining firm; titanium was a specialty and Paul Newman Newman/Freeman racing, was his most famous customer.

*Raced a Maserati OSCA in SCCA competition and set a lap record for number of cars passed at Indy in one lap that still stands.

*Caught the eye of Enzo Ferrari and tested for a driving job. The old man did not get that gig but I did see the original correspondence with Enzo on Ferrari letter head.

(I have a photo of Pino at the track in Rome with 'Tonio Ascari who was the son of the famous F-1 champion and Enzo's bff.)

*Got back into bikes to get into shape for driving, both riding and developing products.
His awards at an inventors conference in Belgum were brought to the attention of Eddy Merckx.

*Ernesto Colnago hires Pino to develop "skunk works" components for Merckx's 1972 hour record bike. The stem, bottom bracket and chain on the hour record bike were made by Pino in Warren.

*Pino continued mentoring and coach cyclists, names you would know include Dale and Wayne Stetina and Greg LeMond. LeMond finsihed 2nd in the Jr.Worlds on Pino's bottom bracket.

*Developed the "PiBehr" titanium bike in 1972 with his partner Cecil Behringer.
A 60 cm track bike from 1972 the weighed 11lbs! Yeah, there is still one in Warren somewhere
This is the only brazed ti bike and the only ti bake made from 6/4.

*Somewhere in here did a bit of consulting for N.A.S.A.

*The '80's found him commuting between his two homes : Rome and Warren. In Rome, he worked drveloping and building bikes for the Italian national team in a shop under the olympic velodrome, the "centro studio". This is where my bike came from.

*In the '90's he was living in Warren but still spending time in Rome. I met the old man the day he wandered through the door at the bike shop where I worked. We became very good friends.

*The mentorship started when Pino set me up to do a job on an old bridgeport. I carved out the rear drop outs for a "Stayer" motor pace bike. I have a pic of the bike, painted in Bianchi celeste crossing the line at the World's in third place.


The mentorship was way more than building bikes. Cooking, philosophy, driving cars.....

Now the sad part is, there is little money in cycling. Until you sell out to Trek, Specialized or Giant, you just eek by so I have been out of the business for 20 years.

The great frame builder J.P.Weigle put it too me the best "Don't do it kid. It will be the hardest 20 grand you'll ever earn and you gotta' buy liability insurance for the rest of your life."

[screaminDOHC]

30 Miles on Friday....
need......to......ride......more....