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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricer Ryan View Post
    http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wor...wn-since-1974/

    I do smoke. More for pain relief then recreational.

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    By the way. I don't see any references that note the scientific proof. Just a bunch of "testimonials"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorMade View Post
    I'll remind you later. You get home at what like 12:30?

    By the way, I don't care if you smoke or not. I'm just saying that this "miracle drug" stuff, is BS in my eyes.
    It's been curing breast cancer, and has even caused to help fight HIV infections. I cannot research this, as at U of M I doubt "What are benefits of marijuana" is a welcome search inquiry. And I don't have internet at home, won't for a couple/few months. But I assure you, it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorMade View Post
    By the way. I don't see any references that note the scientific proof. Just a bunch of "testimonials"
    Like I said, when I've got my laptop. That's the first one I could find on my phone. But there is scientific proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricer Ryan View Post
    Like I said, when I've got my laptop. That's the first one I could find on my phone. But there is scientific proof.

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    Word. I'm open to the ideas. Just want to see some proof. Ya know? I guess I'm a little close minded until I see it.
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    Funniest shit is when people ask for scientific proof.


    Because there is no such thing as "scientific proof."


    Everything is just a theory, waiting to be proven wrong.


    Show me scientific proof that marijuana doesn't help the environment, create rainbows, draw out unicorns, etc. All you'll have to show me is testimonials.

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    Harvard study: a bit more in depth

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorMade View Post
    Word. I'm open to the ideas. Just want to see some proof. Ya know? I guess I'm a little close minded until I see it.
    I understand. If I seem short, its because I'm on my phone, not irritated. I don't blame you for feeling the way you do, considering what you've been taught your whole life.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

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    According to an approved statement from the US Department of Justice in 1988, "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But cannabis is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality. In practical terms, cannabis cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity."[53]
    From January 1997 to June 2005, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reported zero deaths caused by the primary use of cannabis. In contrast, common FDA-approved drugs which are often prescribed in lieu of cannabis (such as anti-emetics and anti-psychotics), were the primary cause of 10,008 deaths.[54]The cannabinoid THC has an extremely low toxicity and the amount that can enter the body through the consumption of cannabis plants poses no threat of death.[55]
    [edit]Glaucoma


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    In glaucoma, cannabis and THC have been shown to reduce intra-ocular pressure (IOP) by an average of 24% in people with normal IOP who have visual-field changes. In studies of healthy adults and glaucoma patients, IOP was reduced by an average of 25% after smoking a cannabis "cigarette" that contained approximately 2% THC—a reduction as good as that observed with most other medications available today, according to a review by the Institute of Medicine.[56]
    In a separate study, the use of cannabis and glaucoma was tested and found that the duration of smoked or ingested cannabis or other cannabinoids is very short, averaging 3 to 3.5 hours. Their results showed that for cannabis to be a viable therapy, the patient would have to take in cannabis in some form every 3 hours. They said that for ideal glaucoma treatment it would take two times a day at most for compliance purposes from patients.[57]
    [edit]Spasticity in multiple sclerosis


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    A review of six randomized controlled trials of a combination of THC and CBD extracts for the treatment of multiple sclerosis (MS) related muscle spasticity reported, "Although there was variation in the outcome measures reported in these studies, a trend of reduced spasticity in treated patients was noted." The authors postulated that "cannabinoids may provide neuroprotective and anti-inflammatory benefits in MS."[58] A small study done on whether or not cannabis could be used to control tremors of MS patients was conducted. The study found that there was no noticeable difference of the tremors in the patients. Although there was no difference in the tremors the patients felt as if their symptoms had lessened and their quality of life had improved. The researchers concluded that the mood enhancing or cognitive effects that cannabis has on the brain could have given the patients the effect that their tremors were getting better.[59][60]
    [edit]Alzheimer's disease
    Research done by the Scripps Research Institute in California shows that the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, prevents the formation of deposits in the brain associated with Alzheimer's disease. THC was found to prevent an enzyme called acetylcholinesterase from accelerating the formation of "Alzheimer plaques" in the brain more effectively than commercially marketed drugs. THC is also more effective at blocking clumps of protein that can inhibit memory and cognition in Alzheimer’s patients, as reported in Molecular Pharmaceutics.[61] Cannabinoids can also potentially prevent or slow the progression of Alzheimer's disease by reducing tau protein phosphorylation, oxidative stress, and neuroinflammation.[62]
    [edit]Breast cancer
    According to a 2007 study at the California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute, cannabidiol (CBD) may stop breast cancer from spreading throughout the body.[63] These researchers believe their discovery may provide a non-toxic alternative to chemotherapy while achieving the same results minus the painful and unpleasant side effects. The research team says that CBD works by blocking the activity of a gene called Id-1, which is believed to be responsible for a process called metastasis, which is the aggressive spread of cancer cells away from the original tumor site.[63]
    [edit]HIV/AIDS
    Investigators at Columbia University published clinical trial data in 2007 showing that HIV/AIDS patients who inhaled cannabis four times daily experienced substantial increases in food intake with little evidence of discomfort and no impairment of cognitive performance. They concluded that smoked cannabis has a clear medical benefit in HIV-positive patients.[64][65] In another study in 2008, researchers at the University of California, San Diego School of Medicine found that marijuana significantly reduces HIV-related neuropathic pain when added to a patient's already-prescribed pain management regimen and may be an "effective option for pain relief" in those whose pain is not controlled with current medications. Mood disturbance, physical disability, and quality of life all improved significantly during study treatment.[66] Despite management with opioids and other pain modifying therapies, neuropathic pain continues to reduce the quality of life and daily functioning in HIV-infected individuals. Cannabinoid receptors in the central and peripheral nervous systems have been shown to modulate pain perception. No serious adverse effects were reported, according to the study published by the American Academy of Neurology.[67] A study examining the effectiveness of different drugs for HIV associated neuropathic pain found that smoked Cannabis was one of only three drugs that showed evidence of efficacy.[68]
    [edit]Brain cancer
    A study by Complutense University of Madrid found the chemicals in cannabis promote the death of brain cancer cells by essentially helping them feed upon themselves in a process called autophagy. The research team discovered that cannabinoids such as THC had anticancer effects in mice with human brain cancer cells and in people with brain tumors. When mice with the human brain cancer cells received the THC, the tumor shrank. Using electron microscopes to analyze brain tissue taken both before and after a 26- to 30-day THC treatment regimen, the researchers found that THC eliminated cancer cells while leaving healthy cells intact.[69] The patients did not have any toxic effects from the treatment; previous studies of THC for the treatment of cancer have also found the therapy to be well tolerated. However, the mechanisms which promote THC's tumor cell–killing action are unknown.[69]
    [edit]Opioid dependence
    Injections of THC eliminate dependence on opiates in stressed rats, according to a research team at the Laboratory for Physiopathology of Diseases of the Central Nervous System (France) in the journal Neuropsychopharmacology.[70] Deprived of their mothers at birth, rats become hypersensitive to the rewarding effect of morphine and heroin (substances belonging to the opiate family), and rapidly become dependent. When these rats were administered THC, they no longer developed typical morphine-dependent behavior. In the striatum, a region of the brain involved in drug dependence, the production of endogenous enkephalins was restored under THC, whereas it diminished in rats stressed from birth which had not received THC. Researchers believe the findings could lead to therapeutic alternatives to existing substitution treatments.[70]
    In humans, drug treatment subjects who use cannabis intermittently are found to be more likely to adhere to treatment for opioid dependence.[71] Historically, similar findings were reported by Edward Birch, who, in 1889, reported success in treating opiate and chloral addiction with cannabis.[72]
    [edit]Controlling ALS symptoms
    Recent research has been conducted on if the use of cannabis could control some of the symptoms of ALS or Lou Gehrig's Disease. A survey was conducted on 131 people who suffered from ALS. The survey asked if the subjects had used cannabis in the last 12 months to control some of their symptoms. The survey resulted in 13 people who had used the drug in some form to control symptoms. The survey results found that cannabis was moderately effective in reducing symptoms of appetite loss, depression, pain, spasticity, drooling and weakness and the longest relief reported was for depression. The pattern of symptom relief was consistent with those reported by people with other conditions, including multiple sclerosis (Amtmann et al. 2004).[59]





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    Quote Originally Posted by J0sh View Post
    Funniest shit is when people ask for scientific proof.


    Because there is no such thing as "scientific proof."


    Everything is just a theory, waiting to be proven wrong.


    Show me scientific proof that marijuana doesn't help the environment, create rainbows, draw out unicorns, etc. All you'll have to show me is testimonials.
    But, there IS proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0sh View Post
    Funniest shit is when people ask for scientific proof.


    Because there is no such thing as "scientific proof."


    Everything is just a theory, waiting to be proven wrong.


    Show me scientific proof that marijuana doesn't help the environment, create rainbows, draw out unicorns, etc. All you'll have to show me is testimonials.
    Makes me laugh that "it cures" shit and yet there is no proof. If it was known to cure things I'm sure it should be in proven record. You know they've been studying it and trying to find the benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0sh View Post
    Funniest shit is when people ask for scientific proof.


    Because there is no such thing as "scientific proof."


    Everything is just a theory, waiting to be proven wrong.


    Show me scientific proof that marijuana doesn't help the environment, create rainbows, draw out unicorns, etc. All you'll have to show me is testimonials.

    Scientists have been studying cannabis for years. They offer true scientific proof that it CURES CANCER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorMade View Post
    Makes me laugh that "it cures" shit and yet there is no proof. If it was known to cure things I'm sure it should be in proven record. You know they've been studying it and trying to find the benefits.
    There IS proof!

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    Asking for scientific proof on a plant that has been shown to be illegal due to the lumber and pharmaceutical industries benefiting , is like asking for proof of free energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorMade View Post
    Makes me laugh that "it cures" shit and yet there is no proof. If it was known to cure things I'm sure it should be in proven record. You know they've been studying it and trying to find the benefits.
    They have. But the next process is typically human trials. Did you know that, being a Class 1 drug, they can't even do testing for it without a special federal license, which they don't give out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J0sh View Post
    Asking for scientific proof on a plant that has been shown to be illegal due to the lumber and pharmaceutical industries benefiting , is like asking for proof of free energy.
    Free energy IS available. Try removing your air supply. I bet your energy will be sapped. Yet, you can breathe for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecomark View Post
    There IS proof!

    You antipot people crack me up.
    Who said I was anti-pot? Don't start jumping to conclusions, sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J0sh View Post
    Asking for scientific proof on a plant that has been shown to be illegal due to the lumber and pharmaceutical industries benefiting , is like asking for proof of free energy.
    The proof is right in front of you, but those who are closed minded won't ever see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdaiscool View Post
    Free energy IS available. Try removing your air supply. I bet your energy will be sapped. Yet, you can breathe for free.
    You totally didn't get what he was getting at.
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